A conversation that touches some holy moments. Hosts Matte Downey and Kris MacQueen join Vineyard Canada National Director (and life-long imaginator/creative) David Ruis in exploring a conversation about "creational" creativity. What does the Church do with creativity that doesn't fit the mould we're used to? Does there need to be an explicit purpose in our creativity that validates it or is it enough to do work that we can look at and say "It's good"?